Count in before every loop (as option)

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Angelos58
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Post by Angelos58 » 03-29-18 12:02 pm

I think would be a very usefull option select a count in before a loop.

Nicholas
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Post by Nicholas » 03-29-18 2:41 pm

If you click the Loop button at the top-right corner, you can already choose the number of beats you want between loops. Did you mean that you also wanted the metronome to tick during that time?

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Post by jimhenry » 03-29-18 4:02 pm

It seems like a good idea to have the possibility of a metronome count-in on loops. I don't think you need any additional controls. Just treat the start of a loop with some number of beats between loops the same as the start of a song with regard to the metronome.
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Nicholas
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Post by Nicholas » 04-03-18 11:46 am

Today, the metronome menu has this toggle:
  • Only run before song starts
  • Always running
Would it be a meaningful distinction to split that into three separate on/off options like:
  • Count-in the song
  • Count-in each loop
  • Tick continuously
That last one is still worded a bit awkwardly, but I think I like that more than "always running".

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Post by Angelos58 » 04-04-18 12:08 am

Nicholas wrote:If you click the Loop button at the top-right corner, you can already choose the number of beats you want between loops. Did you mean that you also wanted the metronome to tick during that time?
Yes, please.

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Post by jimhenry » 04-04-18 12:29 am

If you are going to add an option, I think a real Off rather than conflating off with volume would be a better choice:
  • Off
  • Count-in
  • Run
"Run" isn't really descriptive, but I think it is understandable in the context. I think these choices accomplish the same thing if you want count-in for songs and not loops or vice versa. But it is more efficient if you want count-ins for both. And it is a more expected control if you want to stop the metronome. If I remember correctly, the metronome never really ticks continuously but only when a song is being played, which is a good thing.
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Post by Nicholas » 04-12-18 4:45 pm

jimhenry wrote:... I think a real Off rather than conflating off with volume would be a better choice
My new suggestions are all independent on/off toggles. If you turn all three off, you get a real off. If you turn all three on, the metronome would tick before, during the song, and during loop count-ins. The default would probably be the first two options enabled. It is perhaps too fine-grained.

Yours has a nice simplicity to it. And a set of choices where you pick one is easier to wrap your head around than lots of separate choices. Hmm.
jimhenry wrote:... the metronome never really ticks continuously but only when a song is being played, which is a good thing.
Yes, this is another weakness in the "tick continuously" wording. :?

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